incase staff or players werent aware -DMFI project cancelled

Gildren · Post by **Gildren** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:32 pm

Personally, I am casting my vote for hak files. I'd be happy to download them, and see them used to do suck things as mentioned here and more (aka - class/race/spell adjustments that fit the world).

Warlock · Post by **Warlock** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:36 pm

I tried to download it and kept getting:

HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden

And I was sighned in. Can anyone post a downlaod here?

Evelond Formos · Post by **Evelond Formos** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:40 am

SnorriHT wrote:3. Should we wait until the functionality exists when players can actually sit on chairs? I know my character would rather stand then sit on the dirty ground

I believe someone posted the link to this some time ago.

SnorriHT · Post by **SnorriHT** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:46 am

Evelond Formos wrote:
SnorriHT wrote:3. Should we wait until the functionality exists when players can actually sit on chairs? I know my character would rather stand then sit on the dirty ground
I believe someone posted the link to this some time ago.

I'm sure they did

So much functionality existed in NWN that is missing in NWN2. On the server I played on one could sit on chairs, lie down, look shocked, look scared, stand defiantly etc, and a hundred other combined speech and gesture emotes. But most importantly, we could break furniture!

Don't get me wrong though, I would dearly love the functionality discussed here. But if it means the DM/design are spending their time working the hak packs into Das2 rather than delivering new content, new content wins hands down for me everytime.

Atharin · Post by **Atharin** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:55 am

SnorriHT wrote:So much functionality existed in NWN that is missing in NWN2. On the server I played on one could sit on chairs, lie down, look shocked, look scared, stand defiantly etc, and a hundred other combined speech and gesture emotes. But most importantly, we could break furniture!

...???

NWN1 falls short of NWN2 as far as functionalities go by a long shot. Granted that at the moment they are not the easiest to work, but... All those things you mentioned and more can already be done. Regardless, let's not turn this into that kind of thread; I just felt it needed to be said.

SnorriHT · Post by **SnorriHT** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:14 am

Atharin wrote: ...
NWN1 falls short of NWN2 as far as functionalities go by a long shot. Granted that at the moment they are not the easiest to work, but... All those things you mentioned and more can already be done. Regardless, let's not turn this into that kind of thread; I just felt it needed to be said.

heheh sure mate

My intention was not to talk nostalgically about the good old days. And its good to hear that the functionality exists.

KoolestLoser · Post by **KoolestLoser** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:02 am

StormRunner wrote:For it to work the server must be updated with an erf (i think) that's included in the package. It's a mere 314 kb or so, so it's no big hassle. *puppy eyes*

You can sneak it into the next PWC file, no one will ever know! Just have it extract itself to the appropriate folder...

coruscadragon · Post by **coruscadragon** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:47 am

just want to chime in with my two cents... had a blast testing out the tool with SR last night and i will attest to the fact that IT ROCKS.

The only thing it doesn't do that the DMFI does is the Follow function, but it does a lot more too and the props and emotes are pretty cool...

the interface for making rolls is slicker than the DMFI too...

a few issues are the Tent and the Campfire, as already mentioned... Hopefully these could be modified so that if you place a tent or campfire, the last one you had placed would disappear, or even just disable that option...

It looks like there is plenty of room to customize the tool and there would probably be a way to integrate the follow command from the DMFI in... hopefully a later version will have something like that added.

As for chairs that you can sit on... i have seen one PW that had them working, and that was several months ago, so possibly others have them now too, but i haven't really been on others since i got sucked back into Dasaria... the PW is called Siflige and is under Social in Gamespy i belive... i talked to Wyv before and he said that sitting on chairs was very messy to implement, but it might be worth taking a look at how they did it... assuming they are willing to share their scripts for the chairs...

The Explorer · Post by **The Explorer** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:45 pm

I forgot to say I would download the Hak file if someone was to tell me how to do it

marine436 · Post by **marine436** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:58 pm

im also pro hak files

more control the better, assumeing of course stability, what little there is, isnt effected

Elerion · Post by **Elerion** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:39 pm

Apart from large animations like sitting/lying down and the like, I am not a huge fan of tons of emotes. Between hats and armor, attention focus and the like, I find it more effective to have someone type out *looks shocked* than to have their character do a small, incomprehensible movement to signify it. Similarly, I'd rather have someone type something out than hear a voice effect, as it allows me to play without game sound if I want, and makes the conversation possible to re-read if I missed something.

Object placement sounds like a can of worms. I can already see the tents littering the streets of Cear, even with a one-per-person limit.

One final concern is the handling of hak updates. If the hak is updated, will it require everyone on the server to update as well? If so, frequent updates would be a small pain.

That said, I'm not against the tool, but I have no real longing for it either.

Atharin · Post by **Atharin** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:18 pm

All things considered, it could just be modified, you know?

Take selective bits of the code, implement it into the Resting conversation, voila. No hak needed...

Mon-da-oth · Post by **Mon-da-oth** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:57 am

There has been a patch for the DMFI tool. Its a single file that needs to replace the older one.

DMFI Linky

Warlock · Post by **Warlock** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:36 am

coruscadragon wrote: the interface for making rolls is slicker than the DMFI too...

a few issues are the Tent and the Campfire, as already mentioned... Hopefully these could be modified so that if you place a tent or campfire, the last one you had placed would disappear, or even just disable that option...

As for chairs that you can sit on... i have seen one PW that had them working, and that was several months ago, so possibly others have them now too, but i haven't really been on others since i got sucked back into Dasaria... the PW is called Siflige and is under Social in Gamespy i belive... i talked to Wyv before and he said that sitting on chairs was very messy to implement, but it might be worth taking a look at how they did it... assuming they are willing to share their scripts for the chairs...

Yeah Abyssya PW has thier DMFI working perfectly, and chairs to sit on and thier campfires work flawlessly. The only drawback on that world is after 4th lvl you lose 1/2 of all your XP if you die !!