Request regarding RP and PK question...

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:37 pm

Well, first of all, can we Druid/Rangers have an option to be friendly with nature? (Not get attacked and have our animal companions not rampage through the wilds, killing every animal they come across.) Don't how easy/hard that is to script, but it would be nice.

I ask because I was out roleplaying my druid today (IE, out of doable quests

), telling hunters to turn back or be spider food and the like... but it got kind of harder and harder to RP that, as my spider went on rampages, killing everything in sight, while the chars I was warning watched.

Gah.

And this isn't griefing, is it? If I give them ample warning, converse with them, and they run off to hunt anyway? (And yes, I set 'em to hostile and let the buffed spider do all the work - he worked for his food tonite.) Someone accused me of griefing (??) because he returned to the city the first time, and snuck back out to hunt like 5 mins later - and refused to return the second time, and got eaten. Said it was two times, so that's griefing, or some such.

I think he just doesn't know what he's talking about. Right?

Tinuvhiell · Post by **Tinuvhiell** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:44 pm

Welll....IMHO threatening people to not attack things that are hostile to them is just silly. Unless you can keep them from being forced to fight, what are their options, really? Stgand there and let the wolves kill them, or fight the wolves and get killed by you? Not nice to low level characters, again, in MY opinion. I'd be pissed if someone did that to me. Esp if I was new and had yet to find the friends I'd need to kick your behind. There are limited areas you can get to for now, so be respectful of your fellow players. Warn and threaten all you like, but you don't really have to get violent, at least not in a deadly way.

Tinuvhiell · Post by **Tinuvhiell** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:51 pm

You aren't breaking any rules, tho, it doesn't sound like it. Just not making friends.

ScottWAR · Post by **ScottWAR** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:07 pm

Just remember, when someone kills you for interfering with their hunting, you must leave the area for an hour.

muletang · Post by **muletang** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:23 pm

yeah thats the problem I have with this - you've decided to get into one of the only areas to hunt for lowbies at the moment, stopped them from hunting and made them go and sit in the city for an hour. And if they have done all the walking quests you are seriously limiting their experience. Sure it ain't against the rules.

Minuvas · Post by **Minuvas** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:37 pm

In the same regard -

being polymorphed as a bear in town, or having your bear/wolf out in town (Two of the most common enemies just outside of the gates of Cear)

Beckons for a quick visit from my mace.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:53 pm

Tinuvhiell wrote:Welll....IMHO threatening people to not attack things that are hostile to them is just silly. Unless you can keep them from being forced to fight, what are their options, really? Stgand there and let the wolves kill them, or fight the wolves and get killed by you?

Nah, I'd "escort" them back to the gates if they didn't want to be spider. (And I did follow and watch them to make sure they were actually hunting, and not... trying to get to the farmhouse, or something.)

I hadn't considered the part about low level characters not having any other areas to go, though.

I guess I'll have to wait until a few more areas get added to be nature's defender. Bah!

Minuvas · Post by **Minuvas** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:54 pm

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Cain · Post by **Cain** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:07 pm

OK, my character is NN, and never used the "my character is blah" justification. Well except for the obvious implicit one of being a druid and a champion of nature.

I guess I don't really understand things around here. It's all about RP until the gloves come off, or someone does something (IC) you don't like???

Seems to me like a Druid telling you to stop killing animals for a fur hunter is IC and not just justified griefing. Thanks for confusing the hell outta me.

(And like I said in my response, I'll hold off doing it anymore until there are more areas - I hadn't considered/remembered that the wilds are really the only area for some characters to get XP at the moment.

)

Zandes · Post by **Zandes** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:20 pm

i don't see any problem
you're hunting for food, fine it's acceptable in druid's code
you're hunting for sport (like the fur trader's quest), you're hurting nature and ruining the balance, so druids are supposed to tell you to stop and to resort to drastic measures if you keep doing such things

i do agree tho that it would be better to wait till there is more content avaible, keeping people out of the only "lowbie" area avaible isn't a good thing even if it's truly rp

muletang · Post by **muletang** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:25 pm

its all about the balance mate - you need to rp your char to its nature, but you also have to be mindful that there are other people trying to enjoy themselves - when you start to ruin peoples in favour of your 'rp' then its tilted the balance. sounds like you're well aware now though so no problem

Dusty · Post by **Dusty** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:13 pm

I always prefered evil druids myself. The most enjoyable character I ever played was an evil elven druidess who believed cities to be safe havens for those too weak to survive, thus they should be destroyed in order to keep the blood strong.

Rather a fun twist to druidism that didn't require a druid to really look after animals, as they should look after themselves dangit. Just my two tuna on the subject.